Comments on: Cheating Report Update

By: Benjamin Seghers

Benjamin Seghers — Sat, 09 May 2009 15:04:02 +0000

I would say 30 and I would agree professors do not pursue this issue aggressively (or at all, in some instances).

By: Aaron

Aaron — Sat, 09 May 2009 03:24:10 +0000

I agree with your recommendations. The current system leads to decision making with far from perfect information on account of both students and professors which often leads to inefficiency in the decisions made. Professors assume that nothing is done and thus don’t report the allegation of cheating and students assume they can get away with it.

Ideally the system for handling cheaters would also include the ability for a professor to make a recomendation on the punishment. A good punishment would be for the student to be required to inform every professor they take from then on out that they are a convicted cheater.

I’m going to guess that most professors don’t follow through and that the number of cases of academic integrity will be shockingly low. I’ll say 15.

By: ProfSwitzer

ProfSwitzer — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:41:24 +0000

Based on the SCC, it looks like only suspensions of 10 days or more and expulsion are actually listed on the transcript.

By: Jared

Jared — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:31:56 +0000

If and when a student is caught cheating, does it show up on their transcript no matter what? Like if you gave Adam an F because he was cheating does it also show up on the transcript? because it should, that’s something that someone should be able to see when they are evaluating Adam, they can see that he received an F for caught cheating in the class. I would say that the number is <1% of students were caught for acedemic integrity violations.

By: ProfSwitzer

ProfSwitzer — Mon, 04 May 2009 23:09:47 +0000

Knowing what I know about the Judicial Board, they would probably be given different ones. I’m not saying that’s good or bad — just telling you from my experience what I suspect would be the outcome.

By: Zach

Zach — Mon, 04 May 2009 22:24:59 +0000

If the university were to make things transparent students would constantly expect the same treatment because a student with a 4.0 and is active in 5 clubs will be treated differently than a student with a 2.0 and is not active in any clubs. Lets say they both get caught for an alcohol on campus infraction (both are 21 years old), should they both be given the same penalty or different ones?

By: Benjamin Seghers

Benjamin Seghers — Mon, 04 May 2009 18:27:18 +0000

I’m fine with the university adding additional sanctions for criminal offenses. Say a student rapes another student on campus. I would definitely say that’s grounds for expulsion in addition to any jail time that student would serve. Or if a student brought illicit drugs to a dormitory, then I think the university should be well within its rights to kick him out of the dorms, even if that student is already facing criminal sanctions. I agree, however, that this type of information should be transparent and public.

By: Matt Nicklay

Matt Nicklay — Mon, 04 May 2009 05:39:03 +0000

Yup, the SCC system sounds pretty dumb to me. Especially when the act the student commits is already considered to be criminal, and the University finds it necessary to punish them as well. Something about that doesn’t make sense. When needed, leave providing justice to the real legal system.

Also – I’m going to guess a bit lower: 96

By: ProfSwitzer

ProfSwitzer — Sun, 03 May 2009 18:12:37 +0000

Zach — he could also have been punished by his department or program. For example, if a Masters student is accused of plagiarism on a thesis paper, the department can kick him out. But we’ll never know…

By: Zach

Zach — Sun, 03 May 2009 18:07:54 +0000

With the University size being about 17,000 I would guess 1% (170) have been found responsible for academic integrity violations.
Adam, could have gotten 1 of 2 punishments none other than yours, or an academic probabtion of the sorts to have him prove that he is worthy of this university.